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Bump, deserves more votes.
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1 hour ago, Jojo said:
How is that sooo good?! Wow! (I kinda want to start animating but am to lazy to learn it)
I suggest using Krita, it's free and you both animate and draw with it. And watch some tutorials, or play around with it yourself, it's not too hard
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19 minutes ago, TheAlbinoNightfury said:
That looks awsome!
12 minutes ago, SilverTheNicheling said:: O I’m jealous! This looks so good!
Thanks guys!
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Does moving art count lol. I just got Krita so I'm testing out some animation. If anyone has constructive criticism it'd be greatly appreciated
The black figure is a cat and the purple guys are foxes. It's not finished yet, I plan to have the foxes get up, one of them leaping after the cat and the other shaking itself before following. It stops at around 5 seconds for some reason
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16 minutes ago, BirdsAreCool said:
If you'd like then sure, it can be a colab
And I agree, erythristic animals are pretty cool
I'd just make all nichelings with 2 alleles for erythrism have it, no matter what fur colour it's got. Also what sort of dominance would the 2 alleles have? Would 1 be dominant over the other or would there be codominance or incomplete dominance?
I think ginger would be dominant over blonde since higher amounts of pheomelanin is the point of erythrism, so then the blondey-cream would come after because it'd just be weaker erythrism if that makes sense. I'll edit it soon
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10 hours ago, BirdsAreCool said:
It's not a problem sorry for taking a while to get back to you
Now that I've thought about it, it wouldn't actually be necassery to have different forms of erythrism for each individual colour combo. The gene for erythrism could be completely epistatic over all fur, pattern and horn colours. There could be 2 seperate alleles other than non erythristic: 1 which causes bright ginger fur and 1 that causes blond fur. These seem to be the 2 main outcomes but obviously feel free to change/add to it if you decide to go with this
For the toxic body (I always thought of it as being textured like a frog, because dart frogs, instead of an insect. I love dart frogs btw, they're awesome) it could be a more purplish pink if the ginger allele is present and a lighter pink (like the grasshopper you have pictured) for the blond allele
I've included some pictures as examples below. The first 2 are a tiger and a zebra (woah who'd have guessed), this would be the sort of colour caused by the ginger allele. The second 2 are a wildebeest and a fox (mind blown ), this would be the blond allele. The last picture is another grasshopper, but this one has a darker, more purplish colour to it. This would happen when a nicheling inherited both the toxic body and the ginger allele
Man I've gone off on a right rant, sorry I tend to get a bit carried away lol. I think it might be a good idea to simplify it in some way so it's more likely to be added, the current idea would take an awful lot of work given how many possible colour combos there must be. Also yes, pheomelanin is red/orange pigment
Ahh I love this idea, sorry for taking long to reply! I should just make this suggestion a collaboration with you, yeah? I don't think that's been done before but who said it can't be, I thought of and started off the concept and you expanded on it lol.
I'm going to add the ginger and blonde in a little bit, and yes aren't those orange/blonde animals so cool?! I was in awe when looking through erythristic animals. Also I thought the same with toxic body, being like that of a poison dart frog, but I compared it to an insect because I couldn't find any erythristic frog pictures hehe.
Also we would need three alleles then, non erythristic, ginger, and blonde, got it. Does the fact that red/orange/yellow fur won't be affected still apply? I don't think so right, since the fox, which is already red, was turned blondish?
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@BirdsAreCool Ack sorry to bother again but I wanted to ask, would erythrism be visible if the animal only has one red/yellow (and orange for the horn and patterns) fur gene? I don't think so right, since they technically do still have pheomelanin? I think thats the correct word lol
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10 minutes ago, BirdsAreCool said:
I'm glad to help
And yes I don't think it should be deactivated, especially now that you've pointed out that the pattern colour and horn colour would still need to be changed. I didn't think about that
It wouldn't depend on melanism, I was saying that if melanism doesn't deactivate with black fur then erythrism shouldn't deactivate with red/yellow fur. As I just said, I forgot that it would need to stay active anyway to change the horn and pattern colours
Would erythrism be dominant over melanism or recessive to it? Both would be possible. It would have to be recessive to albinism though
Also does anyone know if melanism is dominant or recessive to albinism in the game? I think I read it was dominant on the wiki, but I'm not sure, I've never had a nicheling with both of them
Melanism is recessive to albinism.
I'd make erythrism recessive to melanism only so that it could be a rarer/harder-to-unlock gene. And honestly I think people would prefer melanism so it'd be easier to get if it were dominant.
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1 hour ago, BirdsAreCool said:
Sorry, I wasn't sure if you meant in real life or the game. I'd like to see some debuffs like UV sensitivity and shortsightedness added to albinism to show that it can be problematic
Erythrism could still be implemented as an extra, I mean we've already got melanism and it's not like niche follows realistic colour genetics anyway. It's also completely possible to have two mutations which have the same outcomes. Plus it is kinda cool
Whether or not red or yellow fur deactivates it would probably depend on if melanism deactivates black fur, which I think it does. I'd probably have it dominant over all fur colours, regardless of how much red pigment they already have. It just wouldn't have a visible effect on red/yellow/orange/etc
Ah okay, so what you're saying is erythrism wouldn't be deactivated if the nicheling has red/orange/yellow fur, but it would look like nothing is changed? (Unless it shows up on the horns/claws, since I imagine those would change as well). And would it depend on melanism as well? I want to get everything right when I edit this, thanks for always being super helpful
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@BirdsAreCool You're right, I didn't do much research and there wasn't much I could find on it. But there isn't any other way erthryism could still be implemented? What if it deactivated when the animal has red, orange or yellow fur, since I think what you're saying is these colored animals technically already have erythrism. Let me know, cause if not then I'll just delete this, it's just a suggestion and at least I'm being educated in the process lol.
Also yes I'm aware of what albinism and melanism are and what they do in real life, but I was referring to the way they are in Niche, doing nothing except changing the animal's color.
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Maybe you can name them after famous/well known albino people. Albinism isn't that common among people and albinistic people are still bullied and teased, and in some parts of Africa, killed or attacked. Well known albinistic people are pretty inspirational in my eyes, considering the challenges they had to face simply because of their pigment. Some names I suggest are Shaun, for Shaun Ross, or Salif, for Salif Keita. Sorry for the paragraph lol
Edit: Didnt see that they were females so Shaun and Salif won't work but you know what I mean lol
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13 minutes ago, Bostonlobstah said:
I like the idea, but I honestly don’t see a need for this as it won’t be much different from brown shades.
Ah but wait, couldn't you argue there's no need for albinism or melanism then, since they're basically just white and black.
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-Going to make some changes, what is here is not the final suggestion-
Collaboration with @BirdsAreCool
Erythrism is a pigment mutation in which the fur of an animal is abnormally reddish or orangeish. Like with albinism or melanism, the animal's color is drastically changed but, depending on the animal's environment/lifestyle, it won't be negatively affected too much, as with leopards. This has been recorded in European badgers, wildebeests, jackals, katydids, and other animals as well.
This gene would have no effect on your animals except making them more orangey/creamy in color, whatever their fur color. The animal will be a darker color of orange the darker they naturally are. You can see this with leopards, as their naturally black spots are pretty dark compared to the rest of their coat, which would be tan/white. Here are examples of erythristic animals.Insects affected by erythrism are turned pink! Perhaps toxic body creatures with erythrism can be pink, since I don't imagine a toxic body being furry and instead being more like the texture of an insect.
The gene would be pretty useless honestly, giving no boosts and no disadvantages either. It's just another pigment mutation that can go beside albinism and melanism pretty much, but I thought it'd still be cool to suggest. At least it adds more color variety to your creatures eh?
This gene will not affect red fur, yellow fur, or orange fur (red and yellow combination), since these colors are technically already erythristic (red pigmentation). If the horn color has orange it too won't be affected, but if not it will. Erythrism would be recessive to melanism and albinism, albinism > melanism > erythrism.
Normal Nicheling Erythristic (Ginger) Nicheling Erythristic (Blonde) Nicheling
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More pigment related genes here:
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One time I went to a ranch and I got to pet free roaming does. It was super fun.
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13 minutes ago, philo.exe said:
Done!
Oh my god it's beautiful!! :000 Thank you so much!
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Best experience of my life
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2 hours ago, Fox said:
i am so so sorry, i didn't see that. im pretty new to the forums and i'm still kind of getting the feel of things. you know what they say though great minds think alike! ill see if i delete this post and then ill go comment on yours. once again, very sorry, i know its no excuse but im still new. have a good day!
Ah no it's totally okay!! I completely agree, great minds do think alike and honestly I was shocked we thought of the same thing! That's why I liked the suggestion hehe. Sorry if I made you feel as if you copied, like Jojo and I said it's okay. A heads up, whenever you want to post a suggestion make sure others haven't posted it before, it makes life so much easier.
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I made a suggestion just like this a short while ago:
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1 hour ago, Renio2490 said:
@VankirvanJD, can you get that picture?
Unfortunately not until Tuesday I think since I'm on vacation 😭 If you need to remove me that's fine, I dont want to hold this up.
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3 minutes ago, Renio2490 said:
Okay. When your able to give me the picture please do so. Don’t feel pressured though!
Will do 👌🏽
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9 minutes ago, Renio2490 said:
If you can give me his genes like his patterns and colours you don’t need a picture.
His right paw is a velvet paw and his other is a runner's leg. His fur is yellow and I think his pattern is orange and black, I'm not too sure. I also don't know his specific pattern so I think it would be better to wait for a picture haha
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I would like to enter but I don't have a reference for Vankirvan right now! I'll add it in a few days.
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