StumpytheOzzie Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just like real sumo, can we get some weight classes? Max 20,40,60,80 parts in addition to the current 100 parts? Also... Can logic boxes not be included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jbox1 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 That’s not sumo. That’s sticking a punch if thrusters on a box! plus, you wouldn’t even be able to tell the drone to go foward without any logic parts! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Alusares Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I'm all for expanding the sumo stuff, but taking logic out doesn't make sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 StumpytheOzzie Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 No, I mean logic parts don't count towards the total number of parts.. Logic parts are free. As for the punch thrusters... How about having weight classes by thrusters then? Must have less than 20 thrusters, 40 thrusters etc. Right now, there's no reason (that I can see) to have less than 100 parts. Once the logic is set (5 parts? 10 parts?) it's just adding more fuel tanks, thrusters and googly eyes. Sumo arena is weighted more towards strength than finesse. So having the best logic bot (which is a huge challenge) is not rewarded as much as just more thrusters. Which is easy. That's why I'd like logic parts to be free - so we can get some seriously smart robots, and lower weight classes so we can get thinky bots instead of strong bots. http://robotwars.wikia.com/wiki/Weight_Classes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Entity Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 12 hours ago, jbox1 said: plus, you wouldn’t even be able to tell the drone to go foward without any logic parts! uh. sure you can. just have 2 fuel tanks with all outputs set to the same key and use that key for your thrusters 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 RAC Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Free logic parts would be neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 notsew93 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Though of course, if logic parts were free, a drone would be made with a thousand of them just for the mass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 StumpytheOzzie Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 One of my favourite games of all time was omega. How about a logic part can contain 30 lines of code? I guess I just want to re-live the good old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Alusares Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 @StumpytheOzzie: I see what your saying now, and I think you may be onto something. I'm not sure what a balanced implementation would look like off the top of my head, but I like the notion of the sumo scene getting smarter, rather than the usual mindless pushers flooding the tourney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lurkily Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I could roll with a logic league. All logic parts are free, and while they technically exist and function, they are invisible, have no mass or physics, do not collide, do not count toward the part count, and parts cannot be attached to them. Infinite complexity available. Limit thrusters to 8. That way you fight intelligently, or you go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Alpino_WILL_STEAL_ oats! Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, Lurkily said: I could roll with a logic league. All logic parts are free, and while they technically exist and function, they are invisible, have no mass or physics, do not collide, do not count toward the part count, and parts cannot be attached to them. Infinite complexity available. Limit thrusters to 8. That way you fight intelligently, or you go home. Sounds neat, and very fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Eldrad Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 You'd still see a flood of mindless pushers as you do in the current tourney. The issue is that the tournament puts you against drones who have beat 1-10 opponents. For a very small population that'll approximate a spread of quality, but with a large population (as the game appears to have since being early-access on Steam) all of those will likely be pretty close to average/common. Mindless pushers aren't good. They're just easy to make and therefore the first thing people try and frequently the only thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markus Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 We had to restructure the way we make the match-making in the sumo (with the latest update), because the old way was optimized for being usable with few drones (early access version). But now that we have lots and lots of drones in the match-making, we changed it and we hope it is now more challenging than before (meaning, mindless pushers have less of a chance ). We're working on some ideas (like weight-classes, a only 10-wins tournament, ...). The sumo (and player vs player mode) are very important to us and we want to make the experience as interesting and challenging as possible. Your discussion is very appreciated and helpful ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lurkily Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Markus said: We're working on some ideas (like weight-classes, a only 10-wins tournament, ...). The sumo (and player vs player mode) are very important to us and we want to make the experience as interesting and challenging as possible. Your discussion is very appreciated and helpful ❤️ Any thoughts on the logic league ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Alpino_WILL_STEAL_ oats! Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Oh BTW this needs to be deleted it’s in the wrong section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lurkily Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Alpino_WILL_STEAL_ oats! said: Oh BTW this needs to be deleted it’s in the wrong section. I moved it over; I'll look for sumo weight class/league topics to merge tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Just like real sumo, can we get some weight classes?
Max 20,40,60,80 parts in addition to the current 100 parts?
Also... Can logic boxes not be included?
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