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Bird Hindlegs

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Since there's currently only 3 types of hind legs, I thought one that matches up with winged nichlings would work. The gene would give them 4+ attack since a predatory bird's talons are pretty powerful. I might put up a drawing on what it might look like later.

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I like the idea behind this suggestion. Adding more avian genes sounds pretty spiffy.

However I think that a +4 to strength may be a little much, considering that bearyena hindlegs give a +1. Personally I think  it would better balanced if the talons offered +1 or +2

Nice suggestion, take an upvote for the road!

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Yes, either a bit less than +4 or maybe +4 but they only work when swooping and not when attacking normally.

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I kind of like the idea of it being 1 strength and 2 fishing. That lines it up with the 3 stats on all the other legs, and you can get more strength from horns and body type, but without the forelegs if you're going with winged creatures, you're limited to 2 fishing from the fishing tail. And having no speed wouldn't bother the double winged creatures since they fly everywhere anyway.

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@EmberSky this would be awesome in combination with wings! Especially with the new swooping interaction :D
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I agree that +4 is probably too much, but it's a great idea overall!

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The legs need to at least give one speed. Maybe no swiming bonus could be a good way to balance that out. OR maybe the legs could only give +2 fishing and no atack. Or maybe it could be like the wings, if the creature has wings the legs give +1 strenght and +2 fishing, but if the creature dosn't have them it only gives 1 speed. 

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I feel like the entire purpose of these legs would to be to give strength to a bird creature since that's what they're needed for on real birds. Since they would be bird legs I think a creature without wings would have a very difficult time walking on them, perhaps they would be best with no speed (but wings give you the 7 or 8 spaces of movement) making them only really worth while for flying creatures

so stats would be maybe 

+1 or 2 strength 

+1 or 2 fishing 

And that's all. a winged creature wouldn't be using its legs to swim unless it was a bird intended for the water, and it would have a whole lot of difficulty moving around on those tiny bird legs without its wings 

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4 hours ago, wolfhowlmay said:

I feel like the entire purpose of these legs would to be to give strength to a bird creature since that's what they're needed for on real birds. Since they would be bird legs I think a creature without wings would have a very difficult time walking on them, perhaps they would be best with no speed (but wings give you the 7 or 8 spaces of movement) making them only really worth while for flying creatures

so stats would be maybe 

+1 or 2 strength 

+1 or 2 fishing 

And that's all. a winged creature wouldn't be using its legs to swim unless it was a bird intended for the water, and it would have a whole lot of difficulty moving around on those tiny bird legs without its wings 

I like this, but seeing as birds do walk on land and occasionally take a dip in water regardless of their forte, I think having no movement wouldn't make sense. +1 speed and +1 swimming, however, would work perfectly, because it's still daunting to have [as we've seen with the bearyena legs], but also still somewhat realistic.

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I think they should give +2 strength and +1 fishing (in addition to the required +1 speed). It shouldn't give any bonus to swimming since it seems like the hindlegs we seem to be referring to are those from birds of prey (a.k.a talons). For a swimming creature like a duck then the webbed feet already available should do fine.
Birds like eagles, hawks, and owls are capable of snatching up fish and small animals, so a bonus for those two should be enough.

For a fast bird leg, I feel like that's something different in this case. There are non-flying birds that are very, very speedy and have no problems moving without their wings (like ostriches). There are also birds that are fast on land but only occasionally fly (like roadrunners...or chickens). That's a completely different, and longer, leg though -- not the talons found on birds of prey. A leg like that would be cool though :D
Maybe we could get 2 bird legs, one type for land birds and another for flying birds.

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2 strenght and fishing still sounds good. But I think the legs would not give speed since birds on ground are very slow. 

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giphy.gif I think Talons would be the best word for this gene. 

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Forgot to add but I think the stats for it should be +2 strength and +2 or 3 fishing. Also No context

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22 hours ago, Ancestor Nature said:

A Taloned Hind Leg gene would fit perfectly with the new update, especially since there is a new swooping interaction. Perhaps it would offer +1 speed, +1 swimming, +1 strength and +2 fishing?

I think that'd be a little too much. Especially since that'd totally negate the Bearyena hind legs which are only +1 to speed, strength and swimming.

I think having no speed and swimming on them would be best, since they're ideally meant to compliment winged creatures. Just the strength and fishing.

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18 minutes ago, Fortuna said:

I think that'd be a little too much. Especially since that'd totally negate the Bearyena hind legs which are only +1 to speed, strength and swimming.

I think having no speed and swimming on them would be best, since they're ideally meant to compliment winged creatures. Just the strength and fishing.

I understand where @Ancestor Nature is coming from. If bird hindlegs were added without speed and your creature didn’t have wings or a body with speed, that creature wouldn’t be able to move.

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4 hours ago, Fortuna said:

I think that'd be a little too much. Especially since that'd totally negate the Bearyena hind legs which are only +1 to speed, strength and swimming.

I think having no speed and swimming on them would be best, since they're ideally meant to compliment winged creatures. Just the strength and fishing.

Yes, I personally think it might be too much as well, but since all Hind Leg genes have at least +1 speed and swimming, I think a Taloned Hind Leg gene should as well, otherwise some nichelings would not be able to move.

3 hours ago, Pokestardragacraft said:

I understand where @Ancestor Nature is coming from. If bird hindlegs were added without speed and your creature didn’t have wings or a body with speed, that creature wouldn’t be able to move.

Yes, that is what I mean.

3 hours ago, Bout de Carton said:

The legs need to at least give one speed. Maybe no swiming bonus could be a good way to balance that out. OR maybe the legs could only give +2 fishing and no atack. Or maybe it could be like the wings, if the creature has wings the legs give +1 strenght and +2 fishing, but if the creature dosn't have them it only gives 1 speed. 

A Taloned Hind Leg gene would not need strength, so perhaps strength could be removed, leaving +1 speed, +1 swimming and +2 fishing. It would not be as strong, but it would be more fair.

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Yeah, that makes sense I guess. One speed would be important. I definitely feel like they shouldn't have more than three stats on them though. With all the other hindlegs only have 3 stats on them, having four on one specific feels too strong.

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A Taloned Hind Leg gene would fit perfectly with the new update, especially since there is a new swooping interaction. Perhaps it would offer +1 speed, +1 swimming, +1 strength and +2 fishing?

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