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1 minute ago, Skysplash8 said:

I have dark circles under my eyes. But I sleep well and get a good amount of hours of it (occasionally containing lovely dreams like that one I had a couple night ago where I had a huge pet cobra and her name was Martha...). Soo... why do I have dark circles? Also I've had them for a while, more than I year I know, probably longer.

They're genetic! Some people are more likely to get 'sleep rings' than others- you can tell what kind they are by colour and how spongy they are- light, soft ones are the ones caused by cell death. Dark rings are because of blood vessels close to the eye- this just means the skin is weaker there. 

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4 hours ago, wikipedia (angel) said:

That's simply a symptom of depression and lack of sleep. Did you know that not sleeping causes your body to eat itself from the inside out?- that's why so many people with insomnia have symptoms of depression without having it!

Could you please elaborate on the eating part? 

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6 hours ago, spacecat at random said:

Could you please elaborate on the eating part? 

'The lack of sleep causes harmful chemicals (which are broken down during sleep) to build up in the cells, which eventually causes them to burst.'

It is also possible that parts of the brain related to memory will burst themselves to keep a person alive.

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10 hours ago, wikipedia (angel) said:

'The lack of sleep causes harmful chemicals (which are broken down during sleep) to build up in the cells, which eventually causes them to burst.'

It is also possible that parts of the brain related to memory will burst themselves to keep a person alive.

Yeah, but why call it eating? Do some cells really just burst? I assume that attracts the clean up crew, at least? 

Idk. What little I do know about it is pretty much that link https://www.livescience.com/60875-sleep-deprivation-sluggish-brain-cells.html

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1 minute ago, spacecat at random said:

Yeah, but why call it eating? Do some cells really just burst? I assume that attracts the clean up crew, at least? 

Bursting = Death ^^ 

It's called eating because cells around it will cannibalise the left over nutrients within the cell, and the clean up crew is the same as what makes bruises brown. :) 

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10 minutes ago, wikipedia (angel) said:

Bursting = Death ^^ 

It's called eating because cells around it will cannibalise the left over nutrients within the cell, and the clean up crew is the same as what makes bruises brown. :) 

That makes sense. Thanks. I should really read up on sleep sometime

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I know it isn't technically a M-I/D/D, but do you know anything about aphantasia? I'm clueless, after many long, deep conversations with my friends about what a mind's eye is and how well each as an individual we can visualise things, I'm thoroughly confused.

It's such an intriguing and difficult subject, as there's no way to truly see from someone else's prospective; as much as you can describe how vivid your mind's eye is, no one can quite imagine what it's like to be you, think like you, exist like you.

Can people actually, literally visualise things with their eyes closed? I've thought it was normal when someone says 'imagine a sandy beach, with the waves rolling in...' etc, etc, you use your memories to piece together the perfect scenario which only words can describe. I decided to test my friends, by making them shut their eyes and imagine an apple, change the background, change the colour. Then asking, 'can you see it?', to which they all responded with a decisive 'yes'. I've tried to explain to them how I imagined it, and they all informed me that was not how they were seeing it.

Sorry for rambling, I apologise for any grammar/spelling mistakes. Also- if you don't know what aphantasia is this probably makes absolutely no sense, sorry again. Sorry (again, again) for posting this on a kind of unrelated thread. Are there any easy ways to tell if you have aphantasia? What do you see in your mind's eye? 

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4 hours ago, Raybeams said:

I know it isn't technically a M-I/D/D, but do you know anything about aphantasia? I'm clueless, after many long, deep conversations with my friends about what a mind's eye is and how well each as an individual we can visualise things, I'm thoroughly confused.

It's such an intriguing and difficult subject, as there's no way to truly see from someone else's prospective; as much as you can describe how vivid your mind's eye is, no one can quite imagine what it's like to be you, think like you, exist like you.

Can people actually, literally visualise things with their eyes closed? I've thought it was normal when someone says 'imagine a sandy beach, with the waves rolling in...' etc, etc, you use your memories to piece together the perfect scenario which only words can describe. I decided to test my friends, by making them shut their eyes and imagine an apple, change the background, change the colour. Then asking, 'can you see it?', to which they all responded with a decisive 'yes'. I've tried to explain to them how I imagined it, and they all informed me that was not how they were seeing it.

Sorry for rambling, I apologise for any grammar/spelling mistakes. Also- if you don't know what aphantasia is this probably makes absolutely no sense, sorry again. Sorry (again, again) for posting this on a kind of unrelated thread. Are there any easy ways to tell if you have aphantasia? What do you see in your mind's eye? 

When you have aphantasia, you see nothing , or a very vague image- it's a surprisingly common! 

 

This is a good video, and explains it in simple terms! 

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2 minutes ago, Clover said:

I know this is technically a place to ask about this sort of thing, but I'm really tempted to just talk about it :')

Feel free! I can add you as a 'mod'/person who answers questions if you want! :) 

PM me on it! ^^

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22 minutes ago, wikipedia (angel) said:

When you have aphantasia, you see nothing , or a very vague image- it's a surprisingly common! 

 

This is a good video, and explains it in simple terms! 

I've watched that videos several times- along with many others (I did the same sort of 'apple test' on my friends). I'm mainly confused about what it means to see something from your mind's eye. If you don't see blackness, what are you seeing?

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1 minute ago, Raybeams said:

I've watched that videos several times- along with many others (I did the same sort of 'apple test' on my friends). I'm mainly confused about what it means to see something from your mind's eye. If you don't see blackness, what are you seeing?

I think my mom has it, too. I know it doesn't make sense, but personally, I see an object like I would see a real object. Stylized, maybe, or simplified. The more complex something is, the shorter I can hold it. It's not exhausting to do when you actually want to imagine something, though. Or if it comes naturally to you. I can see/taste/feel concepts sometimes, which isn't straining, but hard to force yourself into? I don't know. Depression does eat your attention span

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1 minute ago, Raybeams said:

I've watched that videos several times- along with many others (I did the same sort of 'apple test' on my friends). I'm mainly confused about what it means to see something from your mind's eye. If you don't see blackness, what are you seeing?

I don't see anything, so I'll just quote Spacecat's answer.. ^^'

1 minute ago, spacecat at random said:

I think my mom has it, too. I know it doesn't make sense, but personally, I see an object like I would see a real object. Stylized, maybe, or simplified. The more complex something is, the shorter I can hold it. It's not exhausting to do when you actually want to imagine something, though. Or if it comes naturally to you. I can see/taste/feel concepts sometimes, which isn't straining, but hard to force yourself into? I don't know. Depression does eat your attention span

 

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11 minutes ago, spacecat at random said:

I think my mom has it, too. I know it doesn't make sense, but personally, I see an object like I would see a real object. Stylized, maybe, or simplified. The more complex something is, the shorter I can hold it. It's not exhausting to do when you actually want to imagine something, though. Or if it comes naturally to you. I can see/taste/feel concepts sometimes, which isn't straining, but hard to force yourself into? I don't know. Depression does eat your attention span

Do you see actual legitimate colours and shapes? Not a memory, but rather as if it is there, infront of you? Not just blackness..? The more I discuss this topic the more it occurs to me I probably can't see anything.

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17 minutes ago, Raybeams said:

Do you see actual legitimate colours and shapes? Not a memory, but rather as if it is there, infront of you? Not just blackness..? The more I discuss this topic the more it occurs to me I probably can't see anything.

Yeah. 2D is harder than 3D for me, but that doesn't hold true for most people. But it's not in front of anything, it replaces my field of vision. The real world goes blank. You also feel less "in your body". So, you draw back into yourself, by my guess? Or override/mute some senses. But it's not on top of the world, like some layer, but actually shuts down/replaces other visual input. There's no front or back to me, just the object and space, in which I have no true location. I liked tilting cubes in my head as a kid. Or whatever we had to do for "geometric drawing" class, really, I'm not terribly creative. Whatever's around "the edges" gets blurred/cut, but then again, I'm really bad at focus these days. Half of the time, I don't perceive any edge, just whatever's there. I hope that makes some sense. Though visual perception doesn't sound like something that would be universally identical in people.

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Though there really are thinking styles. Like, I can't hear a voice in my head, even when I switch from whatever this mess is to words. But I can draw/manipulate voices heard from memory. Words have no inherent reflection or invoke emotion. So please keep in mind that people just have their specialisations, sometimes. 

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Like this guy. I talked to him on Quora about the line between conceptual thought and synesthesia once. We both agreed not to have it, but concepts have a structure, leading to...

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCJSuS2HrMvJb1HvFTkAvdZQ

These videos on a youtube channel he apparently has. Don't fall prey to my habit of assaulting random people into conversation

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This is so interesting. Thanks for starting this topic. I have watched that aphantasia video and thought it was fascinating. I don’t think I have apahantasia because I can picture things in my mind, but I’m not sure if they are original creations or not. I do have a vivid imagination though, so I kinda have to be able to craft images in my mind to do that? I dunno 

Luckily I don’t really have any mental disorders, I mean I probably have very mild depression (or just mood swings?) and maybe some sort of disorder that causes me to not want to/not have the capacity to socialize well with others??? Not sure about that one though because some people I can interact with just fine. Maybe I just don’t have anything relatable to talk about since my interests and family life/expectations clash so badly? I dunno if that makes sense

Sorry for rambling, oof. My question: I have noticed that a lot of people with mental disorders that I know have some sort of food allergy or intolerance. Are those linked in any way or is that totally preposterous?

 

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11 hours ago, magnolia said:

This is so interesting. Thanks for starting this topic. I have watched that aphantasia video and thought it was fascinating. I don’t think I have apahantasia because I can picture things in my mind, but I’m not sure if they are original creations or not. I do have a vivid imagination though, so I kinda have to be able to craft images in my mind to do that? I dunno 

Luckily I don’t really have any mental disorders, I mean I probably have very mild depression (or just mood swings?) and maybe some sort of disorder that causes me to not want to/not have the capacity to socialize well with others??? Not sure about that one though because some people I can interact with just fine. Maybe I just don’t have anything relatable to talk about since my interests and family life/expectations clash so badly? I dunno if that makes sense

Sorry for rambling, oof. My question: I have noticed that a lot of people with mental disorders that I know have some sort of food allergy or intolerance. Are those linked in any way or is that totally preposterous?

 

Nearly everybody has some sort of food allergy/intolerance- I, personally, have none, but I have a lot of M-I/D/Ds. I think it's merely a coincidence :) 

(Also, is the socialisation more of a 'cannot talk' or a 'it tires me to talk' thing)? 

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8 hours ago, wikipedia (angel) said:

Nearly everybody has some sort of food allergy/intolerance- I, personally, have none, but I have a lot of M-I/D/Ds. I think it's merely a coincidence :) 

(Also, is the socialisation more of a 'cannot talk' or a 'it tires me to talk' thing)? 

(Thanks for the clarification! Makes sense. I don’t have any food allergies except seafood possibly? I dunno. I used to like seafood but my stomach hurts after eating them. Maybe that’s just because I’m such a picky eater and it’s the power of suggestion)

I think both, but it’s hard to say. Which makes no sense because I should know myself, but I don’t??

Sometimes I’m too shy to talk, and sometimes I just don’t feel like talking to someone or have nothing to talk about.

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