Ask Angel About LGBTQ+

[Goggles-kun]

I need revive this thread because I figured Angel would know something about this!! (Bump? @wikipedia [he/him])

I must confess that I am not so sure about my own sexuality anymore. Of course, I have a boyfriend who I love dearly, but my “”ironic”” attraction to women has actually become a desire. I enjoy thinking about having a fulfilling relationship with a woman and I’ve developed crushes on women OBVIOUSLY 2D WOMEN COUGH multiple times before. I don’t think I am bisexual or lesbian because I am non-binary, and because I also enjoy thinking of having relationships with people out of the gender binary. I don’t think I’m pansexual or polysexual. Any idea what this is?

[wikipedia [he/him]]

1 hour ago, Goggles-kun said:

I need revive this thread because I figured Angel would know something about this!! (Bump? @wikipedia [he/him])

I must confess that I am not so sure about my own sexuality anymore. Of course, I have a boyfriend who I love dearly, but my “”ironic”” attraction to women has actually become a desire. I enjoy thinking about having a fulfilling relationship with a woman and I’ve developed crushes on women OBVIOUSLY 2D WOMEN COUGH multiple times before. I don’t think I am bisexual or lesbian because I am non-binary, and because I also enjoy thinking of having relationships with people out of the gender binary. I don’t think I’m pansexual or polysexual. Any idea what this is?

Well, you can be bisexual or lesbian if you are nonbinary, for one, but you can choose whatever term makes you happiest. You could potentially be omnisexual- 

Omnisexuality often goes hand in hand with pansexuality, although the two are separate identities. The main difference between the two is that pansexuals do not ''see'' gender, or do not care about gender (but can still have gender preferences). On the other hand, omnisexuals do see gender, but are still attracted to all genders and are often attracted to people because of their gender.

 

Alternatively, you could be diamoric!

Diamoric is a term used by some non-binary people to describe their orientation, which does not fit into the similar/opposite gender attraction dichotomy due to being a uniquely non-binary experience.

[Goggles-kun]

10 hours ago, wikipedia [he/him] said:

Well, you can be bisexual or lesbian if you are nonbinary, for one, but you can choose whatever term makes you happiest. You could potentially be omnisexual- 

Omnisexuality often goes hand in hand with pansexuality, although the two are separate identities. The main difference between the two is that pansexuals do not ''see'' gender, or do not care about gender (but can still have gender preferences). On the other hand, omnisexuals do see gender, but are still attracted to all genders and are often attracted to people because of their gender.

 

Alternatively, you could be diamoric!

Diamoric is a term used by some non-binary people to describe their orientation, which does not fit into the similar/opposite gender attraction dichotomy due to being a uniquely non-binary experience.

Thanks! I’ll look more into both of those 

[Spacestar TheThundersuncat]

So I filled out a questionnaire for people gathering some information about aromantics. What is sensual attraction?

It just wanted to know whether I make a point of labeling other possible attractions anyway, so it was a clear no, but...

What's the deal with that, @wikipedia [he/him]?

[Goggles-kun]

4 minutes ago, Spacestar TheThundersuncat said:

So I filled out a questionnaire for people gathering some information about aromantics. What is sensual attraction?

It just wanted to know whether I make a point of labeling other possible attractions anyway, so it was a clear no, but...

What's the deal with that, @wikipedia [he/him]?

Oh, I might be able to answer that.

Sensual attraction is different from sexual attraction; I believe sensual attraction is physical gratification towards someone (I.e. hugs, kisses, etc.). Though this definition may include sexual desires, most people who may describe themselves as sensual do not feel this.

I may be wrong.

[Spacestar TheThundersuncat]

4 minutes ago, Goggles-kun said:

Oh, I might be able to answer that.

Sensual attraction is different from sexual attraction; I believe sensual attraction is physical gratification towards someone (I.e. hugs, kisses, etc.). Though this definition may include sexual desires, most people who may describe themselves as sensual do not feel this.

I may be wrong.

Thank you. I'm just so confused about it, though. I don't know what would motivate someone to hug or kiss a person. I just... don't. The lines seem so blurry with these definitions

[Goggles-kun]

1 minute ago, Spacestar TheThundersuncat said:

Thank you. I'm just so confused about it, though. I don't know what would motivate someone to hug or kiss a person. I just... don't. The lines seem so blurry with these definitions

This should help!

[mhiahia]

I am having a bit of a - well, I can't call it a crisis since its not something bad or stressful - self-discovery phase right now and it is very confusing, send help.

When I started realizing that I was not only attracted to men but also to women my first thought that I was "faking it". That out of all people I simply couldn't be part of the LGBTQ+ and that I was imagining things. Now just to clarifiy this was simply because I was still quite young and a dumbass.

Recently I developed bigger interest in nonbinary and genderfluid identities. I realized that I am attracted to people regardless of their gender identity. Now, however, a new question has arisen, concerning my own identity.

I have never felt uncomfortable with being seen as female. The pronouns don't bother me either. I think that I feel female most of the time (although I'm not sure about how I can feel my gender yet). But here's the thing: Sometimes I don't want to present as female. I recently started watching a series with a magical character who can shapeshift into whatever gender they'd like to have in that moment and I'd like to have that opportunity as well.

Sometimes I want to look androgynous. I even had a phase once where I really wanted to pass as male (very short-lifed though and I currently very much dislike the idea of presenting as masculine). But I don't know whether I really want to be androgynous/nonbinary or if I would just like to look like that. I don't know if I genuinely feel this way or if I am misinterpreting things.

Right now I am just pretty confused about this whole thing. Because I really like being female but when I read something along the lines of "They had gotten bored of presenting as male for so long" I kind of felt like it resonated with me.

 

 

[Broken]

10 hours ago, mhiahia said:

I am having a bit of a - well, I can't call it a crisis since its not something bad or stressful - self-discovery phase right now and it is very confusing, send help.

When I started realizing that I was not only attracted to men but also to women my first thought that I was "faking it". That out of all people I simply couldn't be part of the LGBTQ+ and that I was imagining things. Now just to clarifiy this was simply because I was still quite young and a dumbass.

Recently I developed bigger interest in nonbinary and genderfluid identities. I realized that I am attracted to people regardless of their gender identity. Now, however, a new question has arisen, concerning my own identity.

I have never felt uncomfortable with being seen as female. The pronouns don't bother me either. I think that I feel female most of the time (although I'm not sure about how I can feel my gender yet). But here's the thing: Sometimes I don't want to present as female. I recently started watching a series with a magical character who can shapeshift into whatever gender they'd like to have in that moment and I'd like to have that opportunity as well.

Sometimes I want to look androgynous. I even had a phase once where I really wanted to pass as male (very short-lifed though and I currently very much dislike the idea of presenting as masculine). But I don't know whether I really want to be androgynous/nonbinary or if I would just like to look like that. I don't know if I genuinely feel this way or if I am misinterpreting things.

Right now I am just pretty confused about this whole thing. Because I really like being female but when I read something along the lines of "They had gotten bored of presenting as male for so long" I kind of felt like it resonated with me.

 

 

I'm not a big expert on this, but I see myself as a demigirl. Who sometimes feels like being a female and some days I say, screw gender. Or sometimes both. So you're either a demigirl, or by the way you described it, genderfluid. Where you can change from feeling like a female, to feeling like you're non-binary. Hope I helped, I'm not the best at explaining things. 

[CanDLinkZz]

When you see all the non-binary people online who go by they/them pronouns get upset when they’re called anything else and cant relate

When youre on the very edge of the spectrum between non-binary and female but youre technically non-binary nonetheless but you dont feel real enough to call yourself that

When you know non-binary is technically transgender but you don’t feel like that because nothing really has changed, even though there are moments you wish you could change, just for a while

When you still use she/her pronouns irl, you never had any body dysphoria and you didnt change your name so you feel like you dont ‘blend in’; that you’re just a cis girl trying to be ‘special’

When you doubt yourself even though you know youre right; when you keep attacking yourself for things that you cant help

When youre afraid to come out cuz you think youll get attacked

100% me.

 

I remember when I was younger, I would always always always pretend to be a boy. I also remember that my parents would always ask if I was trans but I had no idea what that meant (i was younger than 7) so I always said no. I don't really know what I am, but I know that I definitely don't want to be male. There are some moments where I don't really feel like anything really, but I'm kinda too scared to say anything? I do kind of get 'offended' when someone calls me a girl, but at the same time, it's not like they know, and I dont know whether or not I'm anything else, so like...
And then there are times that I sort of feel in between(?) female and non-binary, and it's kind of a weird feeling. There's still nothing about my body that I want to change though, or at least, not completely, or permanently... there are some times I wish I could look or feel a little less female

hard to explain

hhhh

Meh

I still have time

[CanDLinkZz]

and that up there is me sorta having a conversation with myself.

[Applesauce]

I've been wondering this for a while and now that this thread has been revived - is it possible to be sexaully actrated to one side of the gender spectrum and romanticly actrated to the other at once? 

[Broken]

55 minutes ago, Applesauce said:

I've been wondering this for a while and now that this thread has been revived - is it possible to be sexaully actrated to one side of the gender spectrum and romanticly actrated to the other at once? 

I know it's definitely possible, but I don't know the name for it. Maybe greysexual, which has a vague and wide-spread meaning. Basically, sometimes you feel sexual attraction and others you don't. Or, you can feel sexual attraction to certain people, but not the other people.

[CanDLinkZz]

6 hours ago, Applesauce said:

I've been wondering this for a while and now that this thread has been revived - is it possible to be sexaully actrated to one side of the gender spectrum and romanticly actrated to the other at once? 

My sister suspects that this is happening to her. I mean, I dont really see how it wouldnt be possible, but like, idk

[Broken]

I don’t actually know what my sexuality is...

 

I used to say I was a Lesbian, but now I don’t know... I can also be attracted to non binary people. But I’ve never been attracted to guys. I’ve never thought a guy was attractive before. I guess I’ve seen guys as kind of attractive bit not in a ‘oh I like them, I want to date them’ kind of a way. Really, I’ve only said that two guys were kind of attractive, in a non sexual/romantic way. I mean... I like some guys’ personalities, but I only see them as a friend/ hiwever I know them. I do know that I’m asexual.

 

I do have a funny story though... in art class one of the popular girls came up and asked, “Who’s the hottest celebrity, that’s a guy?” And I didn’t have much time to think, but I knew I couldn’t say I don’t like guys. Because if she knew, everybody knew. So I said, without thinking, “I-um.., I don’t- Markiplier? I don’t really know um...” then just walked away embarrassed. Idk why I said Markiplier. I mean... it was never brought up again. But it was better than saying I was gay. 

[georgie]

13 hours ago, Broken said:

I don’t actually know what my sexuality is...

 

I used to say I was a Lesbian, but now I don’t know... I can also be attracted to non binary people. But I’ve never been attracted to guys. I’ve never thought a guy was attractive before. I guess I’ve seen guys as kind of attractive bit not in a ‘oh I like them, I want to date them’ kind of a way. Really, I’ve only said that two guys were kind of attractive, in a non sexual/romantic way. I mean... I like some guys’ personalities, but I only see them as a friend/ hiwever I know them. I do know that I’m asexual.

 

I do have a funny story though... in art class one of the popular girls came up and asked, “Who’s the hottest celebrity, that’s a guy?” And I didn’t have much time to think, but I knew I couldn’t say I don’t like guys. Because if she knew, everybody knew. So I said, without thinking, “I-um.., I don’t- Markiplier? I don’t really know um...” then just walked away embarrassed. Idk why I said Markiplier. I mean... it was never brought up again. But it was better than saying I was gay. 

lesbians can be attracted to nonbinary people im pretty sure!! im not a lesbian so im not gonna try and explain it but im sure u can find resources out there that explain it

[Katumai]

13 hours ago, Broken said:

I don’t actually know what my sexuality is...

 

I used to say I was a Lesbian, but now I don’t know... I can also be attracted to non binary people. But I’ve never been attracted to guys. I’ve never thought a guy was attractive before. I guess I’ve seen guys as kind of attractive bit not in a ‘oh I like them, I want to date them’ kind of a way. Really, I’ve only said that two guys were kind of attractive, in a non sexual/romantic way. I mean... I like some guys’ personalities, but I only see them as a friend/ hiwever I know them. I do know that I’m asexual.

 

I do have a funny story though... in art class one of the popular girls came up and asked, “Who’s the hottest celebrity, that’s a guy?” And I didn’t have much time to think, but I knew I couldn’t say I don’t like guys. Because if she knew, everybody knew. So I said, without thinking, “I-um.., I don’t- Markiplier? I don’t really know um...” then just walked away embarrassed. Idk why I said Markiplier. I mean... it was never brought up again. But it was better than saying I was gay. 

You could very well be biromantic (being bi doesn't strictly mean being attracted to boys and girls, it just means that you're attracted to two genders at once-so in your case, girls and non-binary people) though I'm nowhere near an expert because,,,girl hot (i feel no sort of attraction towards anyone but girls romantically at least cOUGH)

[mhiahia]

18 hours ago, Broken said:

I don’t actually know what my sexuality is...

 

I used to say I was a Lesbian, but now I don’t know... I can also be attracted to non binary people. But I’ve never been attracted to guys. I’ve never thought a guy was attractive before. I guess I’ve seen guys as kind of attractive bit not in a ‘oh I like them, I want to date them’ kind of a way. Really, I’ve only said that two guys were kind of attractive, in a non sexual/romantic way. I mean... I like some guys’ personalities, but I only see them as a friend/ hiwever I know them. I do know that I’m asexual.

 

I do have a funny story though... in art class one of the popular girls came up and asked, “Who’s the hottest celebrity, that’s a guy?” And I didn’t have much time to think, but I knew I couldn’t say I don’t like guys. Because if she knew, everybody knew. So I said, without thinking, “I-um.., I don’t- Markiplier? I don’t really know um...” then just walked away embarrassed. Idk why I said Markiplier. I mean... it was never brought up again. But it was better than saying I was gay. 

Being bi means that you can be attracted to a multitude of genders or just two. The term is often understood wrongly but bisexual/biromantic people have always used the label in that way.

Bi people can be attracted from only two genders to every gender. The attraction can vary, both in how she is felt and in intensity.

For me, I can be attracted to girls, boys and every other gender. I prefer girls and feel way more attracted to them than to guys, who I prefer the least. That can still vary from time to time.

You could be biromantic, but choose whatever label you deem fit.

[mhiahia]

4 hours ago, heyitsgeorgie said:

lesbians can be attracted to nonbinary people im pretty sure!! im not a lesbian so im not gonna try and explain it but im sure u can find resources out there that explain it

Isn't lesbain strictly meant for women that are attracted to women only? Other options would be wlw or sapphic, right? Why not use that?

[georgie]

3 hours ago, mhiahia said:

Isn't lesbain strictly meant for women that are attracted to women only? Other options would be wlw or sapphic, right? Why not use that?

i geniunely Do Not Know but all i know is that some of my friends are nonbinary lesbians and that lesbians can be attracted to nonbinary people.. i think theres a carrd somewhere that explains it?? idk ill try and find it