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Sumo tiers and divisions

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You will be able to choose a tournament to enter based on 

Tiers:  Based on part count

Divisions:  Based on individual wins

Normal:  Versus all uploaded drones

 

Tiers:  (You will only face other drones in your tier)

1-25.........Featherweight

26-50.......Lightweight

51-75.......Middleweight

76-90.......Cruiserweight

91-100.....Heavyweight

 

Divisions:  (from highest to lowest) (You will only face other drones in your division)  * means number can be adjusted based on amount of drones uploaded, how many wins drones have or could have, etc

Makuuchi.......Top division..........500-∞* wins   Fixed to 42* drones, the bottom ranked drone will be demoted if surpassed

Jūryō..............Second division....400-* wins (40 tournament wins)   Drones bumped down from the top division will place here even if above 500 wins   No drone limit

Makushita......Third division........300-399* wins (30 tournament wins)  No drone limit

Sandanme......Forth division.......200-299* wins (20 tournament wins)  No drone limit

Jonidan..........Fifth division.........100-199* wins (10 tournament wins)  No drone limit

Jonokuchi......Sixth division........1-99* wins

Wins will count from tournaments you enter or wins you gain from other players facing your drone

Division&wins and tier&part count will be displayed when in a match across all tournament modes

A leaderboard can be viewed where players can select a division from a drop down menu and see other drones+built by ___ along with their part count, a small image of the drone can be shown to the left of the name that can be enlarged by hovering over it for 1s

Players can also use a search bar to find a specific drone or a separate tab that shows all of their drones and stats (search bar can also search by selecting one or more attributes such as [part count highest/lowest], [wins highest/lowest], [win ratio highest/lowest] so that players can use the combination they want) 

When you reach a new division there can be a congratulations screen   ex. Congratulations, your drone _____ has been placed into Jonidan, the Fifth Division!

Some rewards can go along with this, such as resources, additional parts for campaign mode, a special skin that you can use, etc

 

I believe sumo is one of the best things about this game, and can be made much more fun than it already is 🙂

 

Sources for names etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_sumo_divisions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_class_(boxing)

 

 

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Human sumo wrestling is mostly a contest of who's heavier -- which is why they got fat.  Nimbatus sumo has enough strategy that the tiers don't really apply.  I've beat 90-part behemoths with a button, engine, and fuel tank.

Fidget spinners aren't invulnerable, either.  They're actually quite weak, because 3/4 of their engines are pointing the wrong way to shove you at any moment.  Once you've got enough magnets to keep them away, they can be pushed around by a relatively smaller opponent.

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4 hours ago, corona_wind said:

Human sumo wrestling is mostly a contest of who's heavier -- which is why they got fat.  Nimbatus sumo has enough strategy that the tiers don't really apply.  I've beat 90-part behemoths with a button, engine, and fuel tank.

Fidget spinners aren't invulnerable, either.  They're actually quite weak, because 3/4 of their engines are pointing the wrong way to shove you at any moment.  Once you've got enough magnets to keep them away, they can be pushed around by a relatively smaller opponent.

Just because you can beat one 90 part drone with a small drone doesnt mean you can do the same for all other 90 part drones

part count will always matter

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Yes, it does -- but not always the way you mean.

  • Rammers:  Huge, ultrafast brute force drones.  They try and catch you before you can move.  Defeat them with:
    • Rammers - an even bigger rammer.
    • Edge Followers - or anything else that moves fast and laterally.  Rammers are good at starting, but not so much at STOPPING.
  • Fidget Spinners.  You can defeat them with:
    • Fidget Spinners - an even bigger fidget spinner.
    • Flux Pushers - spinning is no defense against magnets.
    • Rammers - the bigger the better.
  • Edge Followers.  They stay by the edge to trick your drone into leaving the ring.  Defeat them with:
    • Fidget Spinners - can't be led out of the ring if you ignore your opponent entirely!
    • Toads - lie low and wait for them to come to you, then pounce.
    • Harassment Swarms - Edge followers tend to be lightweights, a good swarm will mess them up.
  • Harassment Swarms.  They launch semi-smart debris to clog you up.  Fight them with:
    • Harassment Swarms - A luck-based mission is still 50/50!
    • Rammers - Three little magnet sats of twenty tons each?  That's cute.  Taste wall.
    • Keep Away - keep dodging debris until you get a good chance.
    • Edge Followers - lead the swarm on a wild goose chase until it does something stupid.
    • Flux Pushers - the swarm can still push, but can't tangle.
  • Keep Away - dodges everything, moves constantly, shoves you when it gets a lucky chance.  Fight with:
    • Fidget Spinners - especially a really big one.
    • Edge Followers - Provoke it into leaving the ring.

Bigger is definitely not always better, and I know of no single drone of any size which can defeat all others.

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37 minutes ago, corona_wind said:

Yes, it does -- but not always the way you mean.

  • Rammers:  Huge, ultrafast brute force drones.  They try and catch you before you can move.  Defeat them with:
    • Rammers - an even bigger rammer.
    • Edge Followers - or anything else that moves fast and laterally.  Rammers are good at starting, but not so much at STOPPING.
  • Fidget Spinners.  You can defeat them with:
    • Fidget Spinners - an even bigger fidget spinner.
    • Flux Pushers - spinning is no defense against magnets.
    • Rammers - the bigger the better.
  • Edge Followers.  They stay by the edge to trick your drone into leaving the ring.  Defeat them with:
    • Fidget Spinners - can't be led out of the ring if you ignore your opponent entirely!
    • Toads - lie low and wait for them to come to you, then pounce.
    • Harassment Swarms - Edge followers tend to be lightweights, a good swarm will mess them up.
  • Harassment Swarms.  They launch semi-smart debris to clog you up.  Fight them with:
    • Harassment Swarms - A luck-based mission is still 50/50!
    • Rammers - Three little magnet sats of twenty tons each?  That's cute.  Taste wall.
    • Keep Away - keep dodging debris until you get a good chance.
    • Edge Followers - lead the swarm on a wild goose chase until it does something stupid.
    • Flux Pushers - the swarm can still push, but can't tangle.
  • Keep Away - dodges everything, moves constantly, shoves you when it gets a lucky chance.  Fight with:
    • Fidget Spinners - especially a really big one.
    • Edge Followers - Provoke it into leaving the ring.

Bigger is definitely not always better, and I know of no single drone of any size which can defeat all others.

yeah but im talking about lower part cap not edge rider vs rammer

 

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That's the thing, though.  Edge riders need low part counts, rammers need high part counts.  (Barring things like swarms, of course.)  Forcing size classes prevents them from meeting as much.

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3 hours ago, corona_wind said:

That's the thing, though.  Edge riders need low part counts, rammers need high part counts.  (Barring things like swarms, of course.)  Forcing size classes prevents them from meeting as much.

rammers can beat edge riders too, there is no one defined circle for everything, only a broad and vague outline

there are so many variations that it's impossible to narrow it down like that

if people dont want to make 100 part drones then they shouldnt have to just to stand a chance or have fun

just because some edge riders are low part count, it doesn't mean that rammers will be obsolete, if anything it will inspire people to make new versions of things, and different types of drones that we dont usually have around

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25 minutes ago, ababaBABABABABBA said:

there are so many variations that it's impossible to narrow it down like that

...except to tiers of 25, 50, 75, 90, and 100 of course.

What if the tiers had no minimum?  That would make a little more sense to me.  The maximum is useful - limits the size of the harassment swarm, sheer mass, whatever, but the minimum comes down to strategy.  I could choose the drone I wanted without having to tack on 35 dead pieces or something.

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